Thank you very much for the helpful reply. I didn't get any notification so I didn't realize that someone actually replied. I removed the leaves with some cool little snips that I bought. Then for the Derby I cut many leaves from both plants. I'm starting to see new growth but now I'm also noticing some black flecks sitting on some of the leaves. I'm not sure what they are or why. I've noticed a few little bugs of different variety and some kind of little furry caterpillar or worm. It looks like something is eating some of the leaves. I'm concerned about the black flecks sitting on the surface of the leaves and I need to research that now. Thank you again for the reply.